Sunday, August 19, 2012

Raising the Bar?

I've actually been thinking of this for a while, and just hadn't had the opportunity to get around to posting it. It has to do with the NBA age rule, specifically relating to the draft, how a player is not draft eligible until he reaches the age of 19, in other words, 1 year removed from high school graduation. While our concept of high school stars making it big include the likes of Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, and LeBron James, we do also have to wonder if perhaps some players like Gerald Green or Eddy Curry may have rushed it a bit and would have been better served playing some more organized basketball prior to their jump to the big leagues. Many believed that high school graduates lacked the maturity to handle the rigors and difficulties involved in being a professional athlete. Thus, came the one-and-done rule. The new era of stars like Kevin Durant and Derrick Rose and the most recent number one overall pick Anthony Davis all indicating that they were going to enter the draft immediately following their freshman year of college. Yet, we still hear stories about people mishandling their entrance into the professional field (i.e. Greg Oden and Hasheem Thabeet). Why? My argument is simply that the age rule is not in place to develop good basketball players that can effectively manage their lives in the limelight of the NBA and realize their full basketball potential, but rather, a lifeline to send popular cash cows to the NCAA for at least a year.

I will be frank with you, I don't really like NCAA basketball. The play is sloppy and execution is haphazard at best. It's designed the way it is partially because of the number of teams, but the game itself is not conducive to development of skill but rather last minute heroics and luck. Everyone that argues that the game is more "pure" because players aren't playing for the money fail to realize money is what almost every single player that makes college basketball enjoyable to watch is playing for. They're jockeying for draft position, because the higher it is, the more money you get. Jesse Blanchard at 48minutesofhell writes in regards to the interesting Spurs draft pick of Cory Joseph in 2011 mostly in regards to how for Cory Joseph, while his game may not have been ready for the NBA, it was better for him to enter the draft because the NCAA would have stunted his basketball growth. I'm going to say it again, NCAA basketball is not good basketball, the tournament and game formats are structured in a way to promote unpredictability, I mean, let's face it, upsets are what make March Madness interesting to most people, because in a single game, anything can happen. That being said, those kind of heroic antics hardly ever translate well into the pros. So let's face it, even if you are the go-to guy on your team, unless you are some sort of otherworldly talent like Kevin Durant, you're not going to be the go-to guy on your NBA team.

But I'm not here to write an extensive bash on the NCAA and how it's a poorly conceived system for growing players into the professional basketball arena. Rather, I'm here to propose an alternative solution. This comes also in the wake of the Olympic games where David Stern has been pressuring FIBA to implement an under 23 years old age limit on eligible participants in Olympic basketball (and likely all subsequent FIBA world tournaments). This is to help owners "protect their players" from injury due to a heavy schedule of playing both in the regular season and in the summer. If implemented, it would be a decidedly economic, unpatriotic move on the part of NBA and its team owners.

My take on it is simple, the only place where Olympic participation can be arguably waning for basketball, would be potentially the USA, but let's be honest, the US could feasibly put out a squad of borderline all-stars and still arguably contend for a gold medal. Granted with the recent development of high caliber talent overseas in countries like Spain, France, Russia, Germany, Argentina, and Brazil, I think the contest would be significantly closer than it was 20 years ago when the Dream Team first took the floor. That being said, there is no other team that could literally boast an essentially All-Star game lineup of Deron Williams, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Tyson Chandler, Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, Andre Iguodala, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Love, and Anthony Davis (remember this is AFTER Chris Bosh, Dwayne Wade, Blake Griffin, among others had dropped out of the team) on the floor. That being said, while the number of players is growing from overseas, a majority of NBA talent is still from the US. So if Team USA decides that it doesn't want to field older players to help them preserve their professional career, that's USA's prerogative. Owners then have to realize that unlike in the US, representing your national team is kind of a big deal elsewhere, and if other players from other countries want to represent their countries in a global tournament (like the Olympics) then that is simply the risk involved with investing in an international player. Granted the biggest rub may in actuality be the fact that the Olympics make a ton of money off of these players that these owners are already paying for, but I'm not going to get into the greed aspect of basketball here either.

I want to talk about my solution to the above issues that have been brought up: player development, the age rule, and a strictly U23 international basketball representation. Now this is how I believe the US could most effectively handle the situation, but granted, I understand that this probably won't happen because well, frankly it could well mean the death of NCAA basketball, but I believe there may be a way around that as well. Simply put, what if to get in the NBA, there was required of each player "2 years of professional experience"? How do we do that? Well, I believe that for foreign players, that generally isn't an issue, as many of them are playing for professional clubs by around the age of 16 or so. By the time they are draft eligible, you could argue that they have had a certain amount of experience. Of course, you could require 2 years of Euroleague or some professional equivalent of play, provided that it was on an adult men's team rather than a U18 team and such. So on that front, I'm not really concerned at all. Most of our best international players (i.e. the Gasol brothers, Dirk Nowitzki, Tony Parker, etc...) have already met this criteria. 

Now for the US. How would we handle this? Well we already presumably have a farm system in place, at least that's what the NBDL is supposed to be. What if we used this in conjunction with Team USA basketball to form our solution. What if, prior to entering into the NBA, each player is required to play through a minimum 2 year contract in the D-League? What I would envision is basically prior to becoming eligible for the NBA draft, all prospective players must go through a tryout process, the top 15 players are placed onto the Team USA roster (whereby helping USA meeting the potential 23 and under rule), and are required to play in through at least one of the FIBA nationals tournaments or the Olympics. Granted this is a single tournament, you could feasibly include this team as a team in the D-League, which would play against other D-League teams. Then, Stern would form 3 other non-affiliated D-League teams for the other top 45 players (presumably those that would have been drafted) on restricted 2 year contracts. Any player on this contract can be traded but cannot receive a call up if traded to an affiliate team. After the two year contracts end, all players become eligible for the draft, which would presumably include players who had been playing in Euroleague for the past 2 years. Stern could feasibly raise the age limit to 20 and this would still work.

Why do I think this would be a good idea? Well, first off, it helps develop players, the non-affiliated teams, and even the affiliated D-League teams, would have NBA-caliber coaches, be playing against near-NBA caliber competition, and playing the NBA-style game. This would help players develop their raw talent into skills that would effectively translate into the NBA. Secondly, this also allows for teams to get a better idea of what players would look like in an NBA setting or at least against professional level athletes and athleticism. The main obstacle would presumably be the difference in money, and maybe my perspective is different. While the pay may not be as lucrative as Europe, I am sure Brandon Jennings and Josh Childress can attest to the difficulty of going to Europe to play. Perhaps the NBDL salaries need to be raised somewhat, but gradually moving the players up in salary instead of throwing $5 million at the feet of a 19 year old may be more feasible in expecting them to make good financial decisions. I had a co-worker who also proposed that perhaps colleges can implement a 2-year professional athlete associates degree with classes on money management and such which is required prior to any professional play. I think that's a pretty good idea too, and frankly, something like this may keep the NCAA alive.

The NBA is already the highest caliber of play in the world, but that doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement. I think something like this could potentially be an effective tool to get the most out of each player.

Saturday, February 18, 2012

Room to grow

Well, no not really, I mean, Jeremy Lin is still a really good player, but you had to wonder when those turnovers would catch up with him, and I guess they did on this last 89-85 defeat at the hands of an undermanned New Orleans Hornets squad. I mean, on paper they had everything going in, but still, that glaring turnover number in Lin's stat line was something that we needed to really pay attention to. I haven't had much opportunity to review all of Lin's play, but from what I did see, I can tell what his coach Mike D'Antoni is telling him is completely on the dot:

"But at the same time, I was telling (Lin) he’s trying to make the hardest pass out there; he’s trying to make the home run pass."
Not that the home run pass isn't sweet, but let's face it, Jeremy Lin is no Steve Nash, well, optimistically speaking, not yet. I still stand by my comparison of Lin's game to veteran (and highly underrated) PG Tony Parker, who, while playing in a completely different system, plays a style of basketball very similar to our newly discovered Harvard phenom.

The natural answer to Lin's issues is that he needs to calm down, as great as those little highlight reel passes are, he's not going to get those Steve Nash contortion passes, those Penny Hardaway no-look behind the back, or even those Jason Williams street-ball-where-did-that-come-from fancy pants passes every single time. From the footage I was able to review, Lin's biggest problem more specifically from trying to hit those home run passes, is that he's trying to pass through the defense. I recall listening to Deron Williams during the 2004 Beijing Olympics training talking about Jason Kidd, he said the main reason Kidd had all these great passes wasn't because he saw lanes that weren't there, Williams saw all the same lanes, but Kidd was willing to risk those lanes, Nash is of a similar vein, but the difference is, that they were such mercurial passers that they can get away with it a lot of the time, granted Nash averaged at his worst 4.2 turnovers per 36 minutes and Kidd, 3.9, that's still a lot of turnovers. Lin on the other hand is now up to 5.4 turnovers per 36 minutes, that's a new level of not good. I completely understand that D'Antoni runs a high PG usage offense and that Lin is young and getting used to playing at the NBA level, but I also recall turnovers being an issue since Harvard for Lin, he's just finally had enough minutes in the NBA to have it start showing. I mean, 5 turnovers in a single game is already pretty bad, but to be averaging more than 5 across the season (granted he's only played really like 8 games), we've got an issue.

I'm no basketball guru, I don't play or understand the game incredibly well, and I'm not going to claim to be able to fix Lin's issues. I think one of the reasons though, that Lin is having this issue is partially because of his emphasis on keeping a live dribble. When you dribble the ball you have to keep it low, however, to come up for the pass, the straight line is through the defenders, where all those arms are swinging and legs are kicking, Lin may see an opening, but you've got to have that quarterback bullet pass in order sneak it in through there, and frankly, NBA players are just too good and react too fast in order for anything short of perfection to slip through. At the end of the day, here's my advice to Lin, stick with the easy passes, run your pick and roll, you've got to be okay with the hockey assist. If I were to take D'Antoni's spot, the last play I would run, would be a basic pick and roll with Amar'e and Lin, then have J.R. Smith and Steve Novak sitting in the corner and wing respectively for the three if it needs to be kicked out. The pick and roll doesn't have to be flashy, it just has to score two points, I know Knicks fans are asking for a show, but at the end of the day, your job is to win basketball games, and I'm sure they'll forgive you the couple of highlights lost for the W. If I were to ask Lin to model his game after someone, it'd definitely now be Tony Parker. He's not going to get the rack as fast, but he's definitely attacking as aggressively, so keep it up.

Finally, I'd say that Lin needs to play over the defense, sometimes, he doesn't need to keep the ball on the floor. Yes, I know, a live dribble, awesome, but that being said, the Knicks are an athletic team, play over the defense. Lin's greatest assists have always been when he has been keeping his passes high over the defenders' heads. I'm not asking for an alley oop every single time, but sometimes you have to trust your teammates to get to the ball, you don't always have to put it into their hands directly. Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady made a lot of their facilitating success looking over the defense, now I know Lin is only 6-3 to Carter's 6-6 and McGrady's 6-8 but still, you need to keep looking up. I'm sure as much as the team is adjusting to playing with Lin, Lin is adjusting to play with the team as well. I'm still very optimistic about Lin's career, he just needs to calm down, and play some sound basketball. If you see the bounce pass, go for it, your bigs are going to roll a lot harder to the rim because they know you can get them the ball, so don't be afraid to throw a lob, trust your guys to get to where they need to be, you don't have to be Steve Nash, and remember, as good as Nash made Amar'e, Amar'e made Nash look good by being ready for the pass and finishing, so keep your head up, both on and off the court.


Tuesday, February 14, 2012

Depth, not chemistry to be the issue with the Knicks

A lot of people have been asking whether or not Jeremy Lin can sustain his stellar performance or if it will be dampened by the return of the Knicks' two stars, Amar'e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony, to the lineup, because, let's face it, they use up possessions, quite a few of them, and each possession used up is one less possession for Lin to excel. While this may not be great for Jeremy Lin fantasy owners, the fact of the matter is, that Lin's emergence is a boon not necessarily in spite of Melo and STAT but rather, because of them.

First off, I've already said at my other blog, Fundamentally Sound that to me, Jeremy Lin's game most reminds me of Tony Parker. Now in this situation, you may be better suited with a pass first type guard such as Rajon Rondo or Ricky Rubio, however, I believe that Lin, like Tony Parker, will surprise us all in his ability to man the point. While Lin may not be the pass-first, high percentage shooter that Steve Nash was, D'Antoni has to be excited that Lin can see the floor and recognize the options given him. Sure, he's turnover prone, he's trying to make the fancy passes, but I think, as he learns the angles given him, he'll settle down, and hopefully get his turnovers down to a reasonable rate.

Lin's ability to run the pick-and-roll, as well as just involve his teammates make him the ideal floor general for the team. Amar'e Stoudemire got a lot of attention from his physicality and overall game, but his success came mostly from the pick-and-roll game he had with Steve Nash. This season, it was a struggle to get Amar'e involved in the offense because of how it stagnated without someone to facilitate the ball movement around the floor on the offensive end. With Lin getting the likes of even an offensive dud like Jared Jeffries involved, we can see that an Lin-Amar'e pick-and-roll combination will only bring good things to the Knicks in the future. Simply put, Amar'e will start looking like the Amar'e we expected, because he can expect those passes and those looks that he wasn't getting before.

On the flip side, we have to wonder about Melo, sure the ball gets stuck in his hands a lot, but quite frankly sometimes you need a player like that. Regardless of what people say about Melo and whether he deserves his contract or not, the fact of the matter is that he can put the ball in the bucket. Melo is probably one of the best, if not the best, pure scorers in the league. I would argue that with Lin manning the point guard position, Melo can focus on doing what he does best, scoring, rather than trying to do something he's not comfortable doing, facilitating. While Melo may be the most popular and well-paid (though it's arguable now with all the Linsanity stuff), and he may ultimately be the face of the franchise (again, caveat with the Linsanity), he's not really the natural leader of the group. I believe that, at least on the floor, deference to Lin will be a good thing for him, because Lin will try to energize the rest of the guys (i.e. Imam Shumpert and Landry Fields) to get into it. Melo is one of those high efficiency scorers when he's on, remember, he averaged about 26 points per game playing NEXT to Allen Iverson, who averaged I think 23 (I'm too lazy to look it up), helping a relatively successful Nuggets make the playoffs. With Lin getting all the other role players involved, I think this situation is much better than that.

The main "chemistry" issue I sense is the possibility of discontentment from Baron Davis when (if) he gets back. However, I don't find that to be a major issue, because, provided he's healthy, figuring out how to split time between Jeremy Lin and a healthy and motivated Baron Davis is a luxurious problem I'm sure Mike D'Antoni wouldn't mind having. What does concern me though is the frontcourt rotation. While Stoudemire and Chandler look to eat up most of the time on the floor, I don't know that Novak and Jeffries necessarily are going to take them the distance. I like how they are getting involved, and Novak really to me has taken the sort of Matt Bonner of the Eastern Conference kind of role. That being said, I still think the Knicks need to figure out a way to add some size. I don't know who would be a good center for the Knicks, maybe it involves cutting Mike Bibby, maybe it involves trading Toney Douglas, I don't know, but I think that, way more so than any chemistry issues on the court with Melo, STAT, and Lin should be the primary concern of the Knicks.

Wednesday, February 8, 2012

An open letter to Jeremy Lin

Dear Jeremy,

I hope you don't mind if I call you Jeremy.

First things first. Congratulations, because you made it.

This will probably be a drop in the bucket compared to all the stuff being written about you by Knicks bloggers, by Warriors bloggers, and just by surprised sports bloggers in general. You've had two big games, and hey, you don't have to listen to me, because frankly, you make almost 20x more than I do a year in salary (which I believe you will be getting guaranteed soon). Regardless of all that hype, regardless of the cheers or jeers of the fickle fans in Madison Square Garden, know that at the very least, you're the hero of every Asian-American male under 35 who used to pretend he was [insert favorite NBA player here] on his 8 (maybe 7) foot rim in his driveway. You are someone we can point to and say, "See, you don't have to be a doctor or computer programmer to make money." That's a lot of pressure, but you made it. You've shown that you don't have to be a 7-6 freak of nature from China to make it. Despite all the adversity, you made it, and we're proud of you.

Now you don't have to listen to a single thing I say, in fact, you probably won't even read this, but I'd like to give you a little bit of perspective (from where I'm sitting). You're going to continue to be scrutinized to a high degree, because well, NBA bloggers are diligent about what they do, and Knicks fans are well, generally crazy. People are going to continue to draw Steve Nash comparisons because well, you play for Mike D'Antoni, and you're breaking the "Asian man can't ball" stereotype like Nash broke the "white man can't ball" stereotype. Now I'll be the first to admit that I suck at basketball, and honestly, I don't watch it enough either to call myself anything more than a slightly-less-than-casual fan. So I don't have great credibility when I talk about technical basketball things. I could say how I think you've got a great feel for running the pick-and-roll, and I can talk about how a guy like Tyson Chandler must be a nice big target for you. At the end of the day though, people more credible and knowledgeable than I will be talking about your explosive first step, your creativity at getting to the rim while questioning your iffy jumper and athleticism. You probably hear enough of this stuff from your coaches and trainers. I know you've worked hard to get to where you are, and I'm glad you've taken a hold of this opportunity to shine.

I'd like to give you some more practical, personal advice. Now, I don't know a whole lot about being an NBA player, in fact I know absolutely nothing. Frankly, because I don't trust 2K Sports or EA Sports to make a game with any semblance of reality built in, and well, because at the end of the day, the people with the most experience, like Charles Barkley, are really just paid to say funny things that sound like they're related to basketball. I applaud your passion for the game, but also, I applaud your passion for Christ. People might (especially New Yorkers) get annoyed or offended that you try to glorify God in every interview that you have, but I appreciate your faith and your trust in how God has provided for you. Never lose that. Whether you become the next Steve Nash or the next Steve Blake, I hope that you never lose your passion for your faith. While I think you know better than I whose game you should emulate (maybe Jason Kidd?) on the court, I would ask that as you take a step back and consider, that you would emulate your career after the likes of David Robinson (Tim Tebow is also I believe someone whom you could look up to, though it is football). Now that you've made it, lots of doors open up for you, I hope then that you take the opportunity to meet with said people and get perspective. I know you're basketball game will keep growing, but it's how you grow with that game that's going to make the biggest impact of all.

Again, I'm glad you made it. I don't know that you'll read this, I don't know that you don't already know everything I've just said. That being said, I've had a blast watching you and hope to see much more. Great job Jeremy.

Sincerely,

A fan

Tuesday, February 22, 2011

An end to all this Melodrama

The Knicks did it.  They finally got Carmelo Anthony.  And Chauncey Billups and Anthony Carter and Shelden Williams and Corey Brewer.  Oh, and they get Renaldo Balkman back too.  Who'd they get rid of?  Well, finally Eddy Curry's fat contract, but also Anthony Randolph, Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Timofey Mozgov, and Raymond Felton.  Curry and Randolph go to Minnesota while the balance of the players end up in the Mile High City.  On paper, it looks okay... I guess.  Why then do I still have this bad taste in my mouth?  Growing up in upstate New York sort of makes me a de facto Knicks fan, and frankly, I can't really say I like this trade, any of it.

Do I think Melo is a bad player?  No.  Do I think Melo won't help the Knicks?  No.  But to be honest, I don't see Melo making a big difference.  Sure I can make this team on my Playstation, average 36 and 28 ppg respectively with Amar'e and Melo and then go undefeated and win championships, but this isn't a video game.  The Knicks didn't really need Melo and Melo honestly didn't need the Knicks, from a pure basketball perspective (I know there are other factors).  I could be proven wrong, maybe Melo will learn to pass, Billups and Amar'e run a super effective pick and roll, but instinctively, I want to flinch at this trigger happy trade.  Yes, we've been talking about this the whole year, but I can't help but think the Knicks gunned it a little too fast on the green light.  First, let's consider the pre-Melo Knicks:

PG - Raymond Felton, Toney Douglas
SG - Landry Fields, Bill Walker
SF - Danilo Gallinari, Shawne Williams
PF - Amar'e Stoudemire, Wilson Chandler
C - Ronny Turiaf, Timofey Mozgov

With Kelenna Azubuike still out with a bum knee, players like Bill Walker and Shawne Williams have stepped up admirably, so they've been getting by admirably.  The Knicks were a decent team, but not one that could get over the top, so here's what happens after the trade:

PG - Chauncey Billups, Anthony Carter
SG - Landry Fields, Corey Brewer
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Shawne Williams
PF - Amar'e Stoudemire, Renaldo Balkman
C - Ronny Turiaf, Shelden Williams

While Melo is the obvious upgrade over Gallo, but Billups and Balkman are both steps down from Felton and Chandler respectively.  Additionally, there's no guarantee that Brewer will be a more positive contributor than either Walker or Williams (who are both still on the team) or if he'll even play if/when Azubuike gets back.  Furthermore, as productive as Shelden Williams has been, he's no center, and he won't compensate for the lack of defense provided by Melo and Amar'e.

Honestly, it's not that I don't think Amar'e and Melo won't work, but rather that it won't work as effectively as people might surmise.  Both can score, but both require more isolation sets to do so.  However, that being said, these are two of the most respected players offensively in the entire world.  They have a decent core, but any core with Chauncey Billups as a major cog leaves the window very short, and frankly, even in his prime, I don't know Billups could've made up the difference that is between a Melo/Amar'e combination and the remaining elite teams of the league.  Of course, Billups did say earlier that if he got traded he may retire, which may be a good thing for New York, not in the short term, but perhaps it means they can go after something they need in free agency.  Frankly, all in all, New York got its big name, but is it going to put them over the top?  Not really.  Seriously though, Melo, prove me wrong.  Please.

It finally happened...

New York got Melo.  It looked like this.

I'm still iffy, I'll give you my personal take a bit later.

Friday, February 11, 2011

Who needs Melo? Who does Melo need?

Amidst all the trade talk circling the player that is Carmelo Anthony, and regardless of what you have to say about the pundits who are circulating these stories, how you think Melo is handling the situation, how you think Masai Ujiri is handling the situation, if you think he will leave, if you think he will stay, regardless of all that, we've kind of been overlooking a pretty major question.  There's not much doubt to me that Melo will ultimately get what he wants, or at the very least go into free agency and sign where he wants to play.  So maybe this question is moot, but it's a legitimate question all the same: which team needs a player like Melo? or in converse, what kind of team does Melo need around him?

Wednesday, January 12, 2011

The Massive Melo Speculation Post: Part 6

Trade #1
Nuggets get: Stephen Jackson, Boris Diaw, Nazr Mohammed, Danilo Gallinari, and Eddy Curry's expiring contract
Knicks get: Carmelo Anthony, Al Harrington, Shaun Livingston
Grizzlies get: J.R. Smith, Wilson Chandler
Bobcats get: O.J. Mayo, Hamed Haddadi, Xavier Henry, Anthony Randolph, Kelenna Azubuike, and Kenyon Martin's expiring contract

Post-trade lineups:

Denver Nuggets:
PG - Chauncey Billups, Ty Lawson
SG - Stephen Jackson, Arron Afflalo
SF - Danilo Gallinari, Gary Forbes
PF - Boris Diaw, Shelden Williams, Renaldo Balkman
C - Nene Hilario, Chris Andersen, Nazr Mohammed

New York Knicks:
PG - Raymond Felton, Shaun Livingston, Toney Douglas
SG - Landry Fields, Bill Walker, Roger Mason
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Shawne Williams
PF - Al Harrington, Ronny Turiaf
C - Amar'e Stoudemire, Timofey Mozgov

Memphis Grizzlies:
PG - Mike Conley, Greivis Vasquez
SG - Wilson Chandler, J.R. Smith, Sam Young
SF - Rudy Gay, Tony Allen
PF - Zach Randolph, Darrell Arthur
C - Marc Gasol, Hasheem Thabeet

Charlotte Bobcats:
PG - D.J. Augustin, Sherron Collins
SG - O.J. Mayo, Gerald Henderson, Xavier Henry
SF - Gerald Wallace, Kelenna Azubuike
PF - Tyrus Thomas, Anthony Randolph
C - DeSagana Diop, Hamed Haddadi, Kwame Brown

Trade #2
Nuggets get: Derrick Favors, Troy Murphy, and Gerald Wallace
Nets get: Carmelo Anthony, Beno Udrih, and Jason Thompson
Bobcats get: Devin Harris, Al Harrington, and J.R. Smith
Kings get: Boris Diaw

Post-trade lineups:

Denver Nuggets:
PG - Chauncey Billups, Ty Lawson
SG - Arron Afflalo, Gary Forbes
SF - Gerald Wallace, Renaldo Balkman
PF - Troy Murphy, Derrick Favors, Kenyon Martin, Shelden Williams
C - Nene Hilario, Chris Andersen

New Jersey Nets:
PG - Beno Udrih, Jordan Farmar
SG - Anthony Morrow, Sasha Vujacic, Ben Uzoh
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Travis Outlaw, Stephen Graham
PF - Jason Thompson, Kris Humphries
C - Brook Lopez, Johan Petro

Charlotte Bobcats:
PG - Devin Harris, D.J. Augustin, Shaun Livingston
SG - J.R. Smith, Gerald Henderson
SF - Stephen Jackson, Dominic McGuire
PF - Al Harrington, Tyrus Thomas
C - Nazr Mohammed, Kwame Brown, DeSagana Diop

Sacramento Kings:
PG - Tyreke Evans, Pooh Jeter
SG - Francisco Garcia, Luther Head
SF - Omri Casspi, Donte Green
PF - Boris Diaw, Carl Landry, Hassan Whiteside, Darnell Jackson
C - DeMarcus Cousins, Samuel Dalembert

Tuesday, December 7, 2010

The Massive Melo Speculation Post: Part 5

Trade #1:

Denver gets: Jeff Green, James Harden, Stephen Jackson, DeSagana Diop, Matt Carroll, and Julian Wright's trade exception
New Orleans gets: Carmelo Anthony, Arron Afflalo, Boris Diaw
Oklahoma City gets: David West
Charlotte gets: Chauncey Billups, Marcus Thornton, Trevor Ariza, and $9M Peja Stojakovic's trade exception

Post trade rosters:

Denver Nuggets:
PG - Ty Lawson, Anthony Carter
SG - Stephen Jackson, James Harden, J.R. Smith
SF - Jeff Green, Gary Forbes
PF - Kenyon Martin, Al Harrington
C - Nene Hilario, Chris Andersen, DeSagana Diop

New Orleans Hornets:
PG - Chris Paul, Jarrett Jack
SG - Marco Belinelli, Willie Green, Arron Afflalo
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Quincy Pondexter
PF - Boris Diaw, Jason Smith, Pops Mensah-Bonsu
C - Emeka Okafor, Aaron Gray

Oklahoma City Thunder:
PG - Russell Westbrook, Eric Maynor
SG - Thabo Sefolosha, Daequan Cook
SF - Kevin Durant, Morris Peterson
PF - David West, Nick Collison, D.J. White
C - Serge Ibaka, Nenad Kristic, Byron Mullens

Charlotte Bobcats:
PG - Chauncey Billups, D.J. Augustin, Shaun Livingston
SG - Trevor Ariza, Marcus Thornton, Gerald Henderson
SF - Gerald Wallace, Dominic McGuire
PF - Tyrus Thomas, Edjuardo Najera
C - Nazr Mohammed, Kwame Brown


Trade #2:
Denver gets: Kevin Love, Martell Webster, Robin Lopez, and Earl Clark
Minnesota gets: O.J Mayo, Hedo Turkoglu
Phoenix gets: Carmelo Anthony
Memphis gets: Grant Hill

Post trade rosters:

Denver Nuggets:
PG - Chauncey Billups, Ty Lawson
SG - Arron Afflalo, J.R. Smith
SF - Martell Webster, Gary Forbes
PF - Kevin Love, Kenyon Martin, Al Harrington
C - Nene Hilario, Robin Lopez, Chris Andersen

Minnesota Timberwolves:
PG - Johnny Flynn, Luke Ridnour, Sebastian Telfair
SG - O.J. Mayo, Wes Johnson
SF - Hedo Turkoglu, Corey Brewer
PF - Michael Beasley, Anthony Tolliver
C - Darko Milicic, Nikola Pekovic, Kosta Koufos

Phoenix Suns:
PG - Steve Nash, Goran Dragic
SG - Jason Richardson, Josh Childress
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Jared Dudley, Gani Lawai
PF - Hakim Warrick, Earl Barron
C - Channing Frye, Garrett Siler

Memphis Grizzlies:
PG - Mike Conley, Greivis Vasquez
SG - Tony Allen, Xavier Henry, Sam Young
SF - Rudy Gay, Grant Hill
PF - Zach Randolph, Darrell Arthur
C - Marc Gasol, Hasheem Thabeet, Hamed Haddadi

Trade #3:
Denver gets: O.J. Mayo, Hedo Turkoglu, Spencer Hawes, Grant Hill, Robin Lopez
Philadelphia gets: Carmelo Anthony
Phoenix gets: Zach Randolph
Memphis gets: Andre Iguodala, J.R. Smith

Post trade rosters:

Denver Nuggets:
PG - Chauncey Billups, Ty Lawson
SG - O.J. Mayo, Arron Afflalo
SF - Hedo Turkoglu, Gary Forbes
PF - Nene Hilario, Kenyon Martin, Al Harrington, Shelden Williams
C - Spencer Hawes, Chris Andersen

Philadelphia 76ers:
PG - Jrue Holiday, Louis Williams
SG - Evan Turner, Jodie Meeks
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Andres Nocioni, Jason Kapono
PF - Elton Brand, Thaddeus Young, Darius Songaila
C - Marresse Speights, Tony Battie

Phoenix Suns:
PG - Steve Nash, Goran Dragic
SG - Jason Richardson, Josh Childress
SF - Jared Dudley, Earl Clark, Gani Lawai
PF - Zach Randolph, Hakim Warrick
C - Channing Frye, Earl Barron, Garrett Siler

Memphis Grizzlies:
PG - Mike Conley, Greivis Vasquez
SG - Andre Iguodala, J.R. Smith, Sam Young
SF - Rudy Gay, Tony Allen
PF - Darrell Arthur, DeMarr Carroll
C - Marc Gasol, Hasheem Thabeet, Hamed Haddadi

Trade #4:
Denver gets: Thaddeus Young, DeSagana Diop, Anthony Parker, J.J. Hickson, Jamario Moon
Cleveland gets: Andre Iguodala, Matt Carroll
Charlotte gets: Mo Williams
Philadelphia gets: Carmelo Anthony

Post trade rosters:

Denver Nuggets:
PG - Chauncey Billups, Ty Lawson
SG - Arron Afflalo, J.R. Smith
SF - Jamario Moon, Thaddeus Young, Gary Forbes
PF - J.J. Hickson, Kenyon Martin, Al Harrington
C - Nene Hilario, Chris Andersen

Cleveland Cavaliers:
PG - Ramon Sessions, Daniel Gibson
SG - Andre Iguodala, Christian Eyenga, Manny Harris
SF - Antawn Jamison, Joey Graham, Jawad Williams
PF - Anderson Varejao, Leon Powe, Samardo Samuels
C - Ryan Hollins

Charlotte Bobcats:
PG - Mo Williams, D.J. Augustin, Shaun Livingston
SG - Stephen Jackson, Gerald Henderson
SF - Gerald Wallace, Dominic McGuire
PF - Boris Diaw, Tyrus Thomas, Edjuardo Najera
C - Nazr Mohammed, Kwame Brown

Philadelphia 76ers:
PG - Jrue Holiday, Louis Williams
SG - Evan Turner, Jodie Meeks
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Andres Nocioni, Jason Kapono
PF - Elton Brand, Marresse Speights, Darius Songaila
C - Spencer Hawes, Tony Battie


Trade #5:
Denver gets: Marcin Gortat, Brandon Bass, Martell Webster, Corey Brewer, Nick Young
Orlando gets: Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Love, J.R. Smith
Minnesota gets: Gilbert Arenas, Mickael Pietrus
Washington gets: Rashard Lewis

Post trade rosters:

Denver Nuggets:
PG - Chauncey Billups, Ty Lawson
SG - Arron Afflalo, Nick Young
SF - Martell Webster, Corey Brewer, Gary Forbes
PF - Nene Hilario, Brandon Bass, Al Harrington
C - Marcin Gortat, Chris Andersen

Orlando Magic:
PG - Jameer Nelson, Chris Duhon, Jason Williams
SG - Vince Carter, J.J. Redick, J.R. Smith
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Quentin Richardson
PF - Kevin Love, Ryan Anderson
C - Dwight Howard, Daniel Orton

Minnesota Timberwolves:
PG - Johnny Flynn, Luke Ridnour, Sebastian Telfair
SG - Gilbert Arenas, Wayne Ellington
SF - Mickael Pietrus, Wes Johnson
PF - Michael Beasley, Anthony Tolliver
C - Darko Milicic, Nikola Pekovic, Kosta Koufos

Washington Wizards:
PG - John Wall
SG - Kirk Hinrich, Alonzo Gee, Cartier Martin
SF - Rashard Lewis, Josh Howard, Al Thornton
PF - Andray Blatche, Yi Jianlian
C - JeVale McGee, Hilton Armstrong, Trevor Booker

Tuesday, November 30, 2010

Playing Like a Super Star: It's not just in the numbers

You knew I would get to this eventually.  I just had to, there's so much to write about here.  Really.  The Miami Heat are now 10-8 after a much needed win against a dismal Washington Wizard's squad.  10-8.  That puts them smack between Chicago (9-6) and Indiana (8-7), 5th overall in the Eastern Conference, which is exactly where they were last season 5th in the Easter Conference.  We're talking about a team that replaced Dorrell Wright, Michael Beasley, Quentin Richardson, and Jermaine O'Neal with LeBron James, Chris Bosh, Mike Miller, and Zydrunas Ilgauskas.  Okay, so Miller has yet to play a game, Haslem is out for the season, but really?  This is the team we were itching to break the 1996 Chicago Bulls' 72-10 record?  I mean, sure they can win 63 of the next 64 and do that...  Seriously though.

You can gripe all you want about how Miami doesn't have that defensive minded point guard they need (read: George Hill), how they don't have a real center that can live off of crashing the boards (read: Tyson Chandler), etc... What does it ultimately come down to though?  The Miami Heat aren't a good team.  Don't get me wrong, they are a team with awesome players, this is the makings of some broken roster on some version of an NBA basketball game or another, but the difference between reality and the video game is that you can't "manufacture" team play.  If I know specifically what crossover leads me to an easy dunk, and I can hit cutters with anybody, sure, I'll average 10 assists a piece for both LeBron and Wade, heck, I'll have Udonis Haslem and Mike Miller averaging 20 points a game each.  Chris Bosh will average 25 ppg on 80% shooting.  I can do that all on a video game.  So far though, as we've seen, the lineup of random PG, Dwayne Wade, LeBron James, Chris Bosh, random C isn't working, but it should, right?

Outside of Chris Bosh (who's really just put up a lot of flashy numbers on a really bad team), no one can deny the mercurial talents that are Dwayne Wade and LeBron James.  They've consistently led mediocre teams into the playoffs year after year, and in 2006 (with the help of Shaq) Wade got a ring, and in 2007 James stunned the world by taking a less-than-mediocre Cavaliers (when Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Drew Gooden are your 2nd and 3rd leading scorers you are less than mediocre) to the Finals.  So you figure, when you put the perennial All-Star starting SG, SF, and PF together on one team you get awesomeness right?  I mean, it sort of worked with Boston, right?  or maybe we were just expecting awesomeness to just by bringing three awesome players together?  Well, look at how Carmelo Anthony and Allen Iverson ended up.  Sure they both averaged 25 ppg but Denver was still a pretty dismal team.

I think because of how good these players are, and how bad of a team they were on, and how far they took those bad teams (that and the fact that those teams, save maybe the 2006 Miami Heat, arguably, were never good with these players), we often overlook what it takes for a star of any caliber to help his team succeed.  The same scrutiny that Kobe Bryant endured sharing a starting lineup with Smush Parker and Chris Mihm.  In order for the Heat to succeed, they can't be just doing whatever it is they've been doing, i.e. chuck LeBron James/Dwayne Wade the ball and hope something good comes out of it.  Certainly not having any confidence in Mario Chalmers/Carlos Arroyo/Zydrunas Ilgauskas/Joel Anthony doesn't help, but frankly, they need more of an option than "give the best player on the floor the ball".  While Phil Jackson has been gifted with stellar talent like Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan, why do his teams win?  Because Kobe/Michael "taking over" is more of a last resort than primary plan of attack.  We can argue all we want about both LeBron and Wade needing the ball in his hands to be effective, but at the end of the day 2 points is 2 points right?  It shouldn't matter if it's LeBron James or James Jones that scores 30 so long as Miami comes out with the win, right?  That's they're job as basketball players, to win.  We all believe that Wade and LeBron are a better pair than Iverson and Melo, why?  Because we still think Wade and LeBron do more than just score, and they've shown that they can (albeit in flashes, because they've been asked to score so much). 

Where am I going with all this?  First, the Heat need to understand what they are good at.  Does this mean moving without the ball?  Gasp! What a novel idea?  Ball movement?  Who would've thought!  Between LeBron and Wade there are enough handles where it shouldn't matter who the PG is.  If neither one wants those duties then you have to be willing to work within the system you have and not just hang around the triple threat zone waiting for your turn to go off.  Ultimately what it boils down to is this, as good as you are, as the star of your team, you're not going to win if you don't make your teammates better.  It's an intangible that's hard to measure or sometimes even point to, but ultimately, your team, your system, which is based around your star, has to make your other players play better than they would otherwise.  Sure Erik Spoelstra is doing his job in trying to motivate the team, but the person who ultimately does that is the best player on the team.  A lot of people criticize LeBron James for passing the ball to Donyell Marshall at the end of Game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals in 2007, I don't, it was the right decision at the time.  That's what role players are there for, to fill a role, what the star does, is make their jobs easier for them.  Kelly Dwyer called LeBron out saying that if he's not going to get the bulk of the offensive possessions then he should be shutting down the opposition, hitting the glass harder, etc... and I completely agree.

The Miami Heat can totally get away with winning by just having better players on their roster, but until their stars get the rest of the team to step it up by example, just being awesome (on paper) is only going to get you so far, and that certainly isn't far enough to win a championship.  What do all these great championship stars have in common?  They lead by example.  Kobe Bryant will get in your face and basketball you to death, Tim Duncan lets Pop do that, and if Timmy's gonna get railed by the coach that means nobody's safe, because if the best PF of all time is going to listen to his coach, you figure everyone else should listen to him too, and right there I've accounted for 9 championships in the past 11 years.  Miami, you can sit on your laurels and just be a collection of awesome players, or you can have (one of) your stars emerge as a driving force that pushes the team to greatness.  It's more than just basketball, it's more than just the stats, the numbers are nice, but the rings are nicer.

Wednesday, November 17, 2010

The Massive Melo Speculation Post: Part 4

Still going:

I'll just post ideas and maybe analyze later:

Again, this is just speculation, I have no basis for this.


Trade #1
Denver gets: Andre Iguodala, Anthony Randolph, Nazr Mohammed, Eddy Curry's expiring contract
Philadelphia gets: Gerald Wallace, Danilo Gallinari
New York gets: Carmelo Anthony
Charlotte gets: Chauncey Billups, Wilson Chandler

Post trade rosters:
Denver:
PG - Ty Lawson, Anthony Carter
SG - Arron Afflalo, J.R. Smith
SF - Andre Iguodala, Gary Forbes, Renaldo Balkman
PF - Kenyon Martin, Al Harrington, Shelden Williams
C - Nene Hilario, Chris Andersen, Nazr Mohammed

Philadelphia:
PG - Jrue Holiday, Louis Williams
SG - Evan Turner, Jason Kapono, Jodie Meeks
SF- Gerald Wallace, Danilo Gallinari, Andres Nocioni
PF - Elton Brand, Thaddeus Young
C - Spencer Hawes, Marresse Speights

New York:
PG - Raymond Felton, Toney Douglas
SG - Landry Fields, Bill Walker, Roger Mason, Andy Rautins
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Kelenna Azubuike
PF - Amar'e Stoudemire, Shawne Williams
C - Timofey Mozgov, Ronny Turiaf

Charlotte:
PG - Chauncey Billups, D.J. Augustin, Shaun Livingston
SG - Stephen Jackson, Gerald Henderson
SF - Wilson Chandler, Dominic McGuire
PF - Boris Diaw, Tyrus Thomas, Edjuardo Najera
C - Kwame Brown, DeSegana Diop

Trade #2
Denver gets: Jamario Moon, Anderson Varejao, Eddy Curry's expiring contract
Cleveland gets: Danilo Gallinari, Anthony Randolph, J.R. Smith
New York gets: Carmelo Anthony

Post trade rosters:

Denver:
PG - Chauncey Billups, Ty Lawson
SG - Arron Afflalo, Gary Forbes
SF - Jamario Moon, Al Harrington
PF - Nene Hilario, Kenyon Martin, Shelden Williams, Renaldo Balkman
C - Anderson Varejao, Chris Andersen

Cleveland:
PG - Mo Williams, Ramon Sessions
SG - J.R. Smith, Anthony Parker, Daniel Gibson
SF - Danilo Gallinari, Jawad Williams, Joey Graham
PF - Antawn Jamison, Anthony Randloph, Leon Powe
C - J.J. Hickson, Ryan Hollins

New York:
PG - Raymond Felton, Toney Douglas
SG - Landry Fields, Bill Walker, Roger Mason
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Wilson Chandler, Kelenna Azubuike
PF - Amar'e Stoudemire, Shawne Williams
C - Timofey Mozgov, Ronny Turiaf

Trade #3
Denver gets: Derrick Favors, Gerald Wallace, Jamal Crawford
Atlanta gets: Boris Diaw, Nazr Mohammed
Charlotte gets: Troy Murphy, Josh Smith, J.R. Smith
New Jersey gets: Carmelo Anthony

Post trade rosters:

Denver:
PG - Chauncey Billups, Ty Lawson, Anthony Carter
SG - Jamal Crawford, Arron Afflalo
SF - Gerald Wallace, Gary Forbes
PF - Kenyon Martin, Derrick Favors, Shelden Williams
C - Nene Hilario, Chris Andersen

Atlanta:
PG - Mike Bibby, Jeff Teague
SG - Joe Johnson, Mo Evans
SF - Marvin Williams, Pape Sy

PF - Al Horford, Boris Diaw
C - Nazr Mohammed, Zaza Pachulia, Josh Powell, Etan Thomas, Jason Collins

Charlotte:
PG - D.J. Augustin, Shaun Livingston
SG - J.R. Smith, Gerald Henderson, Matt Carroll
SF - Stephen Jackson, Dominic McGuire
PF - Josh Smith, Tyrus Thomas, Troy Murphy
C - Kwame Brown, DeSegana Diop

New Jersey:
PG - Devin Harris, Jordan Farmar
SG - Anthony Morrow, Terrence Williams
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Travis Outlaw, Damion Jones, Quinton Ross
PF - Kris Humphries, Joe Smith
C - Brook Lopez, Johan Petro

Trade #4
Denver gets: Anderson Varejao, Jamario Moon, Zach Randolph, O.J. Mayo
Cleveland gets: J.R. Smith, Thaddeus Young, Kenyon Martin (and his expiring contract)
Philadelphia gets: Carmelo Anthony
Memphis gets: Andre Iguodala, Antawn Jamison

Post trade rosters:

Denver:
PG - Chauncey Billups, Ty Lawson
SG - O.J. Mayo, Arron Afflalo
SF - Jamario Moon, Gary Forbes
PF - Zach Randolph, Al Harrington, Shelden Williams
C - Nene Hilario, Chris Andersen, Anderson Varejao

Cleveland:
PG - Mo Williams, Ramon Sessions, Daniel Gibson
SG - Anthony Parker, J.R. Smith
SF - Thaddeus Young, Joey Graham, Jawad Williams
PF - Kenyon Martin, Leon Powe
C - J.J. Hickson, Ryan Hollins

Philadelphia:
PG - Jrue Holiday, Louis Williams
SG - Evan Turner, Jason Kapono, Jodie Meeks
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Andres Nocioni
PF - Elton Brand, Darius Songaila
C - Spencer Hawes, Marresse Speights, Tony Battie

Memphis:
PG - Mike Conley, Acie Law
SG - Andre Iguodala, Xavier Henry, Greivis Vasquez
SF - Rudy Gay, Sam Young
PF - Antawn Jamison, Darrell Arthur
C - Marc Gasol, Hasheem Thabeet, Hamed Haddadi


Trade #5
Denver gets: Shane Battier, Anderson Varejao, Nazr Mohammed, Anthony Parker
Houston gets: Carmelo Anthony
Cleveland gets: Gerald Wallace, J.R. Smith
Charlotte gets: Mo Williams, Kevin Martin

Post trade rosters:

Denver:
PG - Chuancey Billups, Ty Lawson
SG - Anthony Parker, Arron Afflalo
SF - Shane Battier, Gary Forbes
PF - Nene Hilario, Kenyon Martin, Al Harrington
C - Anderson Varejao, Chris Andersen, Nazr Mohammed

Houston:
PG - Aaron Brooks, Kyle Lowry, Ishmael Smith
SG - Courtney Lee, Jared Jeffries
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Chase Budinger
PF - Luis Scola, Chuck Hayes, Jordan Hill
C - Yao Ming, Brad Miller

Cleveland:
PG - Ramon Sessions, Daniel Gibson
SG - J.R. Smith, Christian Eyenga
SF - Gerald Wallace, Jamario Moon, Joey Graham, Jawad Williams
PF - Antawn Jamison, Leon Powe
C - J.J. Hickson, Ryan Hollins

Charlotte:
PG - Mo Williams, D.J. Augustin, Shaun Livingston
SG - Kevin Martin, Gerald Henderson, Matt Carroll
SF - Stephen Jackson, Dominic McGuire
PF - Boris Diaw, Tyrus Thomas
C - Kwame Brown, DeSagana Diop

Trade #6
Denver gets: Tayshaun Prince, Peja Stojakovic, Chris Wilcox, Marcus Thornton
Detroit gets: Kenyon Martin, Jamal Crawford, Josh Smith
New Orleans gets: Carmelo Anthony, J.R. Smith
Atlanta gets: David West, Richard Hamilton, Jason Maxiell

Post trade rosters:

Denver:
PG - Chauncey Billups, Ty Lawson
SG - Arron Afflalo, Marcus Thornton
SF - Tayshaun Prince, Peja Stojakovic, Gary Forbes
PF - Shelden Williams, Al Harrington, Chris Wilcox
C - Nene Hilario, Chris Andersen

Detroit:
PG - Rodney Stuckey, Will Bynum
SG - Jamal Crawford, Ben Gordon, Tracy McGrady
SF - Jonas Jerebko, Austin Daye
PF - Josh Smith, Kenyon Martin, Charlie Villanueva
C - Ben Wallace, Greg Monroe

New Orleans:
PG - Chris Paul, Jerryd Bayless
SG - Trevor Ariza, Marco Belinelli, J.R. Smith, Willie Green
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Quincy Pondexter
PF - Jason Smith, Pops Mensah-Bonsu
C - Emeka Okafor, D.J. Mbenga

Atlanta:
PG - Mike Bibby, Jeff Teague
SG - Joe Johnson, Richard Hamilton, Jordan Crawford
SF - Marvin Williams, Mo Evans
PF - David West, Etan Thomas
C - Al Horford, Zaza Pachulia, Josh Powell

Trade #7
Denver gets: Jeff Green, Nenad Kristic, Kevin Martin, Kosta Koufos, Lazar Hayward
Oklahoma City gets: Kevin Love, J.R. Smith
Minnesota gets: Shane Battier, Chauncey Billups
Houston gets: Carmelo Anthony, Martell Webster

Post trade rosters:

Denver:
PG - Ty Lawson, Anthony Carter
SG - Kevin Martin, Arron Afflalo
SF - Jeff Green, Gary Forbes
PF - Nene Hilario, Kenyon Martin, Al Harrington
C - Nenad Kristic, Chris Andersen, Kosta Koufos


Oklahoma City:
PG - Russell Westbrook, Eric Maynor
SG - Thabo Sefolosha, James Harden, J.R. Smith
SF - Kevin Durant, Morris Peterson
PF - Kevin Love, Nick Collison
C - Serge Ibaka, Cole Aldrich, Byron Mullens

Minnesota:
PG - Chauncey Billups, Johnny Flynn, Luke Ridnour, Sebastian Telfair
SG - Corey Brewer, Wayne Ellington
SF - Shane Battier, Wesley Johnson
PF - Michael Beasley, Anthony Tolliver
C - Darko Milicic, Nikola Pekovic

Houston:
PG - Aaron Brooks, Kyle Lowry, Ishmael Smith
SG - Martell Webster, Courtney Lee
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Chase Budinger
PF - Luis Scola, Chuck Hayes, Jordan Hill
C - Yao Ming, Brad Miller


Trade #8
Denver gets: Donte Greene, Chris Kaman, Al-Farouq Aminu, Jeff Green
Oklahoma City gets: Jason Thompson
Sacramento gets: Chauncey Billups
L.A. Clippers get: Carmelo Anthony

Post trade rosters:

Denver:
PG - Ty Lawson, Anthony Carter
SG - Arron Afflalo, J.R. Smith
SF - Jeff Green, Donte Greene, Al-Farouq Aminu
PF - Nene Hilario, Kenyon Martin, Al Harrington
C - Chris Kaman, Chris Andersen

Oklahoma City:
PG - Russell Westbrook, Eric Maynor
SG - Thabo Sefolosha, James Harden
SF - Kevin Durant, Morris Peterson
PF - Jason Thomson, Nick Collison, D.J. White
C - Nenad Kristic, Serge Ibaka, Cole Aldrich

Sacramento:
PG - Chauncey Billups, Beno Udrih
SG - Tyreke Evans, Francisco Garcia, Luther Head
SF - Omri Casspi, Antoine Wright
PF - Carl Landry, Darnell Jackson, Hassan Whiteside
C - Samuel Dalembert, DeMarcus Cousins

L.A. Clippers:
PG - Baron Davis, Eric Bledsoe, Randy Foye
SG - Eric Gordon, Rasual Butler
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Ryan Gomes
PF - Blake Griffin, Craig Smith, Brian Cook
C - DeAndre Jordan, Jarron Collins


Trade #9
Denver gets: Gerald Wallace, Boris Diaw, Thaddeus Young, Andres Nocioni, Jason Kapono
Dallas gets: Andre Iguodala
Charlotte gets: Shawn Marion, Jason Terry
Philadelphia gets: Carmelo Anthony, Kenyon Martin

Post trade rosters:

Denver:
PG - Chauncey Billups, Ty Lawson
SG - Arron Afflalo, J.R. Smith, Gary Forbes
SF - Gerald Wallace, Thaddeus Young, Andres Nocioni
PF - Boris Diaw, Al Harrington
C - Nene Hilario, Chris Andersen

Dallas:
PG - Jason Kidd, J.J. Barea, Rodrigue Beaubois
SG - Andre Iguodala, DeShawn Stevenson, Damion Jones
SF - Caron Butler, Steve Novak
PF - Dirk Nowitzki, Brian Cardinal
C - Tyson Chandler, Brendan Haywood

Charlotte:
PG - D.J. Augustin, Shaun Livingston
SG - Stephen Jackson, Jason Terry, Gerald Henderson
SF - Shawn Marion, Dominic McGuire
PF - Tyrus Thomas, Edjuardo Najera
C - Nazr Mohammed, Kwame Brown, DeSagana Diop

Philadelphia:
PG - Jrue Holiday, Louis Williams
SG - Evan Turner, Jodie Meeks
SF - Carmelo Anthony, Craig Brackins
PF - Elton Brand, Kenyon Martin, Darius Songaila
C - Spencer Hawes, Marresse Speights, Tony Battie

Wednesday, October 27, 2010

Why all the big fuss?

Maybe I'm being cynical, maybe I'm a little jaded.  Maybe it's because I live in Seattle and frankly I should be the one going to games and raving about Kevin Durant, which causes me to be predispositioned to dislike the city that stole our team.  I'm a little confused as to how the Thunder all of sudden are considered contenders.  Don't get me wrong, I know they're good.  Are they really THAT good though?  As good as the Lakers?  As good as the Celtics?  The Magic?  Let's compare:



THUNDER LAKERS CELTICS MAGIC
PG Russell Westbrook Derek Fisher Rajon Rondo Jameer Nelson
SG Thabo Sefalosha Kobe Bryant Ray Allen Vince Carter
SF Kevin Durant Ron Artest Paul Pierce Quentin Richardson
PF Jeff Green Pau Gasol Kevin Garnett Rashard Lewis
C Nenad Kristic Andrew Bynum Kendrick Perkins Dwight Howard
Bench Eric Maynor Steve Blake Nate Robinson Chris Duhon
James Harden Shannon Brown Delonte West J.J. Redick
Morris Peterson Matt Barnes Marquis Daniels Mickael Pietrus
Nick Collison Lamar Odom Jermaine O'Neal Brandon Bass
Serge Ibaka Theo Ratliff Shaquille O'Neal Marcin Gortat
Cole Aldrich Luke Walton Glen Davis Ryan Anderson
D.J. White Sasha Vujacic Semih Erden Daniel Orton

I honestly can't say that the Thunder roster looks significantly better than any of the "contenders" out there, well, let's call them definitive contenders, as these three teams are the ones that made the Finals in the last two seasons.  I like the Thunder roster but not enough to call them contenders.  Am I short-selling Kevin Durant?  Maybe, but frankly, a single player doesn't win titles.  Can we definitively say that these OKC Thunder are definitively better than... say the 2009-2010 Cleveland Cavaliers?



THUNDER 2009/2010 CAVS
PG Russell Westbrook Mo Williams
SG Thabo Sefalosha Delonte West
SF Kevin Durant LeBron James
PF Jeff Green Antawn Jamison
C Nenad Kristic Shaquille O'Neal
Bench Eric Maynor Daniel Gibson
James Harden Anthony Parker
Morris Peterson Jamario Moon
Nick Collison Anderson Varejao
Serge Ibaka Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Cole Aldrich J.J. Hickson
D.J. White Jawad Williams


Really?  Let's assume that LeBron and Durant are a wash.  I know Westbrook is a significant upgrade over Williams, and the 2009/2010 Cavs dealt with a plethora of injury and chemistry issues, but really?  Can we say that the OKC is significantly better?  Is Jeff Green better than Antawn Jamison?

Per Game:

Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Jeff Green 2009-10 23 82 82 37.1 5.9 13 0.453 1.3 3.8 0.333 2 2.7 0.74 1.4 4.6 6 1.6 1.3 0.9 1.6 2.7 15.1
2 Antawn Jamison 2009-10 33 66 64 36.5 7.2 15.7 0.461 1.3 3.7 0.344 2.9 4.5 0.647 2.1 6.3 8.4 1.3 1.1 0.3 1.4 2.7 18.7

Per 36:


Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Jeff Green 2009-10 23 82 82 3043 5.7 12.7 0.453 1.2 3.7 0.333 2 2.6 0.74 1.3 4.5 5.8 1.6 1.2 0.9 1.6 2.6 14.7
2 Antawn Jamison 2009-10 33 66 64 2406 7.2 15.5 0.461 1.3 3.7 0.344 2.9 4.5 0.647 2 6.3 8.3 1.3 1.1 0.3 1.4 2.7 18.5

Well... they're pretty comparable, but Jamison shoots better, rebounds better, scores more, and gets to the line more.  Hrm...  They lost 4-2 to Boston in the Conference Semi-Finals.  A lot of people thought LeBron could do it, but I was pretty skeptical as to actually how good the team actually was, I see the same case here.  Sure Durant might be awesome, but at best I don't see that he's better than LeBron awesome.


Per 36:

Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Kevin Durant 2009-10 21 82 82 3239 8.8 18.5 0.476 1.4 3.9 0.365 8.4 9.3 0.9 1.2 5.8 6.9 2.6 1.2 0.9 3 1.9 27.5
2 LeBron James 2009-10 25 76 76 2966 9.3 18.5 0.503 1.6 4.7 0.333 7.2 9.4 0.767 0.9 5.9 6.7 7.9 1.5 0.9 3.2 1.4 27.4

Now, honestly, they're about the same, except LeBron passes the ball better.  Aside from that most of the stats are fairly comparable.  With that then, I can't say that the Thunder are significantly better than any solid playoff team, I mean, statistically you can't really even say he's significantly better than Melo::

Per 36

Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Carmelo Anthony 2009-10 25 69 69 2634 9.4 20.5 0.458 0.8 2.6 0.316 6.9 8.4 0.83 2.1 4.1 6.2 3 1.2 0.4 2.9 3.1 26.6
2 Kevin Durant 2009-10 21 82 82 3239 8.8 18.5 0.476 1.4 3.9 0.365 8.4 9.3 0.9 1.2 5.8 6.9 2.6 1.2 0.9 3 1.9 27.5























While Melo scores less on more shots, he's also a way better offensive rebounder, and frankly, there isn't enough of a differentiation between them to definitively declare one better than the other, at least statistically speaking.  Sure most of us (GMs and their assistants included) like Durant more than Melo, but that doesn't mean a whole lot when the tip-off whistle is blown.  I really don't buy the whole hype about how Thunder, if they aren't contenders are the only ones that can take down the Lakers, sure overall they might match up okay against the defending champs, but I certainly don't think they have a significantly better shot than anyone else in the West.  Why?  Their frontcourt is pretty atrocious.  Jeff Green is not a PF and if he is, he's at best a harder-working Al Harrington.  And I would take an old Shaq and Big Z over Nenad Kristic and Serge Ibaka, I don't care if Ibaka is supposed to have a "breakout" season.  What they have to their advantage is youth and thereby health, something some of the more seasoned teams cannot boast as much of, but seriously?  If the Lakers appear to be head and shoulders above the rest of the West does that mean that Thunder are a head above the rest?  I think not:



THUNDER SPURS MAVERICKS BLAZERS NUGGETS JAZZ
PG Russell Westbrook Tony Parker Jason Kidd Andre Miller Chauncey Billups Deron Willaims
SG Thabo Sefalosha Manu Ginobili Caron Butler Brandon Roy Arron Afflalo Raja Bell
SF Kevin Durant Richard Jefferson Shawn Marion Nicolas Batum Carmelo Anthony Andrei Kirilenko
PF Jeff Green DeJuan Blair Dirk Nowitzki LaMarcus Aldridge Kenyon Martin Al Jefferson
C Nenad Kristic Tim Duncan Brendan Haywood Greg Oden Nene Hilario Mehmet Okur
Bench Eric Maynor George Hill J.J. Barea Wesley Matthews Ty Lawson Earl Watson
James Harden James Anderson Jason Terry Rudy Fernandez J.R. Smith C.J. Miles
Morris Peterson Bobby Simmons DeShawn Stevenson Dante Cunningham Gary Forbes Gordon Hayward
Nick Collison Antonio McDyess Ian Mahinmi Marcus Camby Al Harrington Paul Millsap
Serge Ibaka Tiago Splitter Tyson Chandler Joel Przybilla Chris Andersen Francisco Elson
Cole Aldrich Matt Bonner Rodrigue Beaubois Armon Johnson Renaldo Balkman Kyrylo Fesenko
D.J. White Gary Neal Dominique Jones Fabricio Oberto Shelden Williams Jeremy Evans

Maybe it's me, but while Durant would be the SF I'd want the most on my roster, I can't say that Westbrook is someone I'd pick over Kidd, Parker, Billups, and definitely not Deron Williams.  Every team except maybe the Nuggets has a more desirable PF, and every other team has actually a more desirable frontcourt pairing and a comparably deep bench.  While the Thunder may have surprised us last season with a strong performance, I can't say with confidence that they can beat any of the other five leading Western Conference teams not called the Lakers, not in a 7 game series.


Team Pts Reb Ast Stl Blk To Pf Dreb Oreb Fgm-a Pct 3gm-a Pct Ftm-a Pct Eff Deff
Utah 104.5 41.9 26.4 7.9 4.8 14.4 23.1 31.3 10.7 39.2-80.1 0.49 5.5-15.0 0.365 20.6-27.9 0.739 123 15
Orlando 101.9 42.8 19.3 6.3 5.5 13.5 20.2 33 9.8 36.1-76.9 0.469 10.2-27.3 0.374 19.5-27.1 0.72 113.8 14.2
Boston 98 38.7 23 8.4 4.8 13.9 22.7 30 8.8 36.4-76.5 0.476 6.0-17.1 0.351 19.1-25.6 0.748 112.6 11.9
Dallas 101.4 41.8 23.1 7.5 5.4 12.4 19.3 31.6 10.3 38.0-82.2 0.462 6.8-18.3 0.369 18.6-22.8 0.814 118.4 10
Oklahoma City 101 43.5 19.7 7.7 5.9 14 21.4 31.8 11.7 36.9-80.7 0.457 5.1-15.2 0.337 22.0-27.3 0.807 114.7 9.6
San Antonio 100.8 42.6 22 6.2 4.6 12.9 20.4 31.8 10.7 38.2-80.9 0.472 6.5-18.4 0.356 17.9-24.3 0.735 114.1 8.9
L.A.Lakers 101.6 44 20.8 7 5.1 12.8 20.2 31.9 12.1 38.1-83.2 0.458 6.6-19.4 0.338 18.8-24.6 0.763 114.8 7.9
Portland 97.8 40 20.4 6.3 4.3 11.5 21.1 28.9 11.1 36.0-78.6 0.459 6.0-16.9 0.356 19.7-25.0 0.786 109.4 6.5
Denver 106.6 41.3 20.8 8.1 5.1 13.5 23.1 30.4 10.8 38.0-81.2 0.468 6.6-18.5 0.359 23.9-31.0 0.772 118.2 5

Based on their overall team metrics, while I'm surprised they out-rebounded everybody, I can't really say they particularly stand out enough to warrant the sudden hype.  Frankly, I don't find them to be significantly better than any playoff/fringe playoff team save for the presence of Durant.



THUNDER ROCKETS HAWKS
PG Russell Westbrook Aaron Brooks Mike Bibby
SG Thabo Sefalosha Kevin Martin Joe Johnson
SF Kevin Durant Shane Battier Marvin Williams
PF Jeff Green Luis Scola Josh Smith
C Nenad Kristic Yao Ming Al Horford
Bench Eric Maynor Kyle Lowry Jeff Teague
James Harden Courtney Lee Jamal Crawford
Morris Peterson Chase Budinger Mo Evans
Nick Collison Chuck Hayes Etan Thomas
Serge Ibaka Brad Miller Zaza Pachulia
Cole Aldrich Jordan Hill Jordan Crawford
D.J. White Jermaine Taylor Pape Sy

Sure, it's a great Cinderella story, but hey so were the Hornets in 2008, and look at them now.  Granted, the Thunder are in better shape than the Hornets, but really?  Contenders?  Really?  Seriously people, I know they're a fun team to watch, but let's be realistic.  I mean, a lot of this is coming from the same people who said Zach Randolph and Eddy Curry would make a monstrous frontcourt.