Thursday, November 6, 2008

Best Draft Classes Represented in the NBA

As you've noticed I like these hypothetical situations.  So I took a look at all the drafts going back to 1995 and decided that if I were to do a 6 man tourney of today's NBA players, with 6 players from each draft class representing a team.  You end up getting 15 teams (I made a team of undrafted players).  In trying to determine the best draft class out there, granted some of the younger draft classes have more to prove than some of the older ones and you really can't expect much from the rookie or sophomore class, but hey, it's still fun to speculate.  It'd be like a mini-conference, and it's kinda fun throwing together these rosters.  Let's assume everyone is healthy (I only picked active NBA players, ie, not retired, we assume they play sometime this year), heck, I'll even say what team I think they'd be like this year.

1st.) Draft Class of 1996 (Boston Celtics: All star cast who might suprise you defensively)
PG- Steve Nash
SG- Allen Iverson
SF- Kobe Bryant
PF- Jermaine O'Neal
C- Marcus Camby
6th man- Ray Allen

There's just so much firepower on this squad I don't even know where to begin, first you have right now the best and arguably most refined player in the NBA; Kobe Bryant.  Then you add in one of the premier points in Steve Nash, who also is an elite shooter (50% FG, 40% 3pt, 90% FT), Allen Iverson, one of the best pure scorers ever, and two solid defensive minded big men in Jermaine and Camby, it's neigh unstoppable, add in one of the last premier pure shooters (one who can create nontheless) in Ray Allen as a reserve, and you can't get any more high powered than that.

2nd.) Draft Class of 2003 (LA Lakers: Sick looking roster on paper, might have some holes we didn't think of)
PG- LeBron James
SG- Dwayne Wade
SF- Carmelo Anthony
PF- David West
C- Chris Bosh
6th man- Josh Howard

This is a very explosive offensive squad and one that can play well together (note 2008 Olympics where Wade, James, Anthony, and Bosh were all teammates).  LeBron I think will easily become the best player in the league, and possibly the best player we've ever seen for a while, especially considering he, along with Melo and Bosh won't reach their primes until the 2012 Olympics.  Howard is a solid scorer off the bench and West is an aggresive player who quietly finds his shots and boards.  However, the biggest concern about this squad would be perimeter play, the next would be defense.  Unlike the '96 squad, Bosh and West won't cover up defensive mistakes like O'Neal and Camby would, additionally, as underrated as Wade and LeBron are on defense, I don't know that they have the stopping power that Kobe Bryant does either, that's why they slide to number 2.  These guys will get killed beyond the arc though, however, on the other hand, they likely would be able to run the other team to death.

3rd.) Draft Class of 1999 (Phoenix Suns: the effective running team)
PG- Baron Davis
SG- Manu Ginobili
SF- Ron Artest
PF- Shawn Marion
C- Elton Brand
6th man - Richard Hamilton

If I could get a coach to run with a team like this it would be Don Nelson.  First thing you probably notice is that yes, this is a really small team.  Elton Brand is undersized for a 4 and even Shawn Marion is a little short, but they are all aggressive and will run you to the ground.  This is a team that would run at you full kilter and just simply try to outscore you, I'd actually really like to see all these guys play together sometime, I bet you it'd be a lot of fun.  That being said, they'd also get outmuscled by any team with a semi-legitimate frontcourt.  Though, Marion and Brand are pretty efficient rebounding forwards.

4th.) Draft Class of 2001 (Toronto Raptors: inside-outside, works in theory)
PG- Gilbert Arenas
SG- Joe Johnson
SF- Jason Richardson
PF- Pau Gasol
C- Tyson Chandler
6th man - Tony Parker

The more I look at this, the more I realize this is a fairly potent inside-outside team.  With Joe Johnson and Jason Richardson spotting up at the wings and Gilbert Arenas taking it from the top of the key.  You get Pau Gasol to post in the high post and Tyson Chandler patrolling the middle and reading for the easy spin move/alley-oop or the quick offensive board and putback.  Run a quick high screen and Arenas breaks open for an open three or drives, should he drive then find Chandler for the quick bucket, or should the defense follow find Gasol for the open 15 footer on the roll, if the defense collapses find either Johnson or Richardson open for the three or drive.  Additionally both Richardson and Johnson can create their own shots as well, throw in Parker if you need a little extra push and aggresiveness around the rim or something, but all in all, I like how this team ends up being constructed.  Of course, it's a team that could all too easily fall in love with jumpshots too.

5th.) Draft Class of 2002 (Houston Rockets: you know what you're getting and it's pretty consistenly good)
PG- John Salmons
SG- Tayshaun Prince
SF- Caron Butler
PF- Amare Stoudemire
C- Yao Ming
6th man- Carlos Boozer

This would be a fairly solid team, both Amare and Yao are pretty versatile in both the low and high posts, so they could definitely give the frontcourts a major matchup problem.  Prince I believe can man the 2 slot well enough and would be a solid defensive stop.  I really couldn't find a good guard so I put in John Salmons who is a decent ball handler.  Caron Butler is a solid finisher and Boozer is just another big body off the bench should they need more inside presence.  That being said, it's a solid team but not a standout team.

6th.) Draft Class of 2004 (Philadelphia 76ers: maybe they're a little better at shooting, but they'll run you like crazy)
PG- Ben Gordon
SG- Kevin Martin
SF- Josh Smith
PF- Al Jefferson
C- Dwight Howard
6th man- Andre Iguodala

It was kind of a toss up for me between Iggy and Luol Deng, but I like Iggy's game a little better, and he's shown to be slightly more consistent.  An Al Jefferson/Dwight Howard frontcourt could be potentially monstrous should they coexist effectively, or disastrous should they only get in each other's way, I can see either one happening.  However, a Ben Gordon/Kevin Martin backcourt would be fast and explosive, especially with Josh Smith running with them.  They could also run small subbing out Jefferson and running Iggy at the 3 and Josh Smith at the 4, being a super fast, super athletic team.  Howard just crashboards and the 4 other players take off waiting for an outlet.  I mean, it's something of a waste of Howard's offensive talents, but I'm sure they'd throw him an alley-oop here and there as he trails in behind the offense.

7th.) Draft Class of 1997 (San Antonio Spurs: solid all around, no frills, down to business)
PG- Chauncey Billups
SG- Anthony Parker
SF- Tracy McGrady
PF- Tim Thomas
C- Tim Duncan
6th man- Stephen Jackson

I can actually see this team doing potentially very well, they actually are a reasonably constructed team, and I can actually see a lineup like this happening in the NBA, like, as an actual team, not an All-Star team.  Obviously the focus of the offense will be around Billups, McGrady, and Duncan with Thomas and Parker playing more role positions and shooting a lot of 3s.  Stephen Jackson would be a solid player off the bench and contribute both in scoring and a little on the defense.  Definitely a solid, solid team.

8th.) Draft Class of 1998 (Golden State Warriors: live by the 3, die by the 3)
PG- Mike Bibby
SG- Vince Carter
SF- Paul Pierce
PF- Antawn Jamison
C- Dirk Nowitzki
6th man- Rashard Lewis

This will be an explosive high scoring team, I can see them averaging like 50 threes per game.  The problem, they'll be abused like no other down on the block.  They don't have a single legitimate low post presence.  However, that may not be a problem, as they have a legitimate 3 pt threat in every position, they can try to trade buckets, and hope to win out that way.

9th.) Draft Class of 2005 (Portland Trailblazers: young and should be good, but could possibly be overhyped)
PG- Chris Paul
SG- Deron Williams
SF- Danny Granger
PF- David Lee
C- Andrew Bynum
6th man- Monta Ellis

10th.) Draft Class of 2006 (Chicago Bulls: The team some ends up being less than the sum of its parts)
PG- Rajon Rondo
SG- Brandon Roy
SF- Rudy Gay
PF- Tyrus Thomas
C- LaMarcus Aldridge
6th man- Randy Foye

11th.) Draft Class of 1995 (Sacramento Kings: they're not bad, they're not good, they'll float in the middle and you kind of would forget about them)
PG- Brent Barry
SG- Jerry Stackhouse
SF- Kevin Garnett
PF- Antonio McDyess
C- Rasheed Wallace
6th man- Joe Smith

12th.) Draft Class of 2007 (Minnesota Timberwolves: a lot of young talent that will do well but get no where with it)
PG- Rodney Stuckey
SG- Kevin Durant
SF- Thaddeus Young
PF- Al Thornton
C- Al Horford
6th man- Nick Young

13th.) Draft Class of 2000 (Milwaukee Bucks: wait, who's on this team?)
PG- Jamal Crawford
SG- Michael Redd
SF- Mike Miller
PF- Kenyon Martin
C- Joel Przybilla
6th man- Hedo Turkoglu

14th.) Best of the Undrafted (Memphis Grizzlies: nothing against these guys, but like the Grizzlies, no one would know why they're all on the same team)
PG- Jose Calderon
SG- Raja Bell
SF- Andres Nocioni
PF- Udonis Haslem
C- Brad Miller
6th man- Ben Wallace

15th.) Draft Class of 2008 (Oklahoma City Thunder: potential and upside, that's it)
PG- Derrick Rose
SG- OJ Mayo
SF- Michael Beasley
PF- Jason Thompson
C- Brook Lopez
6th man- Russell Westbrook

2012 Olympic Roster

Ok ok, I know it's still kind of early, but you know me, I like these kind of random speculations, so assuming we look forward to 2012 Olympics (London, right?) what kind of roster are we looking at?  Some of the players will have to go, Jason Kidd will be 39 and likely long retired, Kobe Bryant 34, Tayshaun Prince 32, and Carlos Boozer 31, which means, that the rest of the core is younger, significantly younger.  The solid core of the team, LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams will be around the 27-28 mark, aka their prime, scary.  So who do we bring back?  Well here are my projected starters if I were making the team:

PG - Chris Paul
SG - Dwayne Wade
SF - LeBron James
PF - Chris Bosh
C - Dwight Howard

Dwayne Wade will be turning 30 during those Olympics but keeping him on as a sort of veteran leadership wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea, additionally, this keeps a core of starters that have played together on the international scene before and know what it's like.  I personally liked Chris Bosh's contributions more than Carmelo Anthony's in the past Olympics so I'm inclined to start him over Melo, and I believe that Melo can be a more effective floor leader with the newer players in the second unit, which would be consisting of:

Guards: Deron Williams, Brandon Roy, Derrick Rose
Forwards: Carmelo Anthony, Lamarcus Aldridge, Kevin Durant
Center: Al Jefferson

So the new additions would be Roy, Aldridge, Durant, Rose, and Jefferson, with D-Will and Melo anchoring the whole team down.  It's a more traditional lineup that 2008 Olympics and creates a much more balanced team, of course, one item to note is that there is no real 3 pt specialist (like Michael Redd) so perimeter shooting might be an issue.  If he develops a consistent stroke considerations might include someone like JR Smith or someone of that ilk.  Not really sure though, but this is who I'd go with.

As a note, for the qualifiers, I would love to see an Amare Stoudemire/Dwight Howard frontcourt.  Please let that happen within the next two years in FIBA Americas.  A Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Amare Stoudemire, Dwight Howard starting 5 would be sick.

Wednesday, November 5, 2008

Tinkering with the Lakers, again...

Because we just can't get enough of it. Here's an idea I had a while ago, and while Odom has embraced his role as a 6th man, I think the Lakers can still improve at least in terms of players. Maybe. Maybe I'm crazy and just love tossing these ideas around. As you all probably know by now, I'm a fan for trading Lamar Odom, maybe throw in Luke Walton as well, but seriously, that guy makes enough to kind of wonder who you'd be trading for (that's like $19 million/year, no way I'm trading Odom and Walton for Marbury). So in conclusion, I would trade Lamar Odom for:

Andres Nocioni and Drew Gooden from Chicago

This is an interesting one that has potential, at least to me. Chicago is moving towards their younger players and thus are looking to jettison some of their older players, two of them being Gooden and Nocioni. I believe that Nocioni is a somewhat underrated defender, and additionally, he's very, very proficient from long-range (like all his Argentinian teammates). While Odom isn't a pure post player, he does finish well at the rim and is a big body for rebounding, upgrade from Drew Gooden. Gooden on the other hand adds some legitimacy to the reserves on the frontcourt for the Lakers, playing behind Gasol, he's a solid post presence that won't take a lot away from the team. Not exactly the first guy you think of when you ask about PFs but we're not asking for premier caliber here. So Gooden will be more than sufficient, I think he'd be better than most backup PFs out there. The question once again becomes though ego, can Gooden settle with coming off the bench? Certainly though he's been a starter before, and I think would be a solid backup should either Gasol or Bynum get injured. The Lakers' depth chart ends up looking like:

PG - Derek Fisher, Jordan Farmar
SG - Kobe Bryant, Sasha Vujacic
SF - Andres Nocioni, Trevor Ariza, Luke Walton
PF - Pau Gasol, Drew Gooden, Vladamir Radmanovic
C - Andrew Bynum, Chris Mihm

Odom on the other hand would bring experience and a solid player next to Luol Deng, and another scoring option. I think with a player like Derrick Rose, Odom could really thrive. Of course that all depends on how well Tyrus Thomas and/or Joakim Noah can hold down the C spot. However, either way I can see it working out. It could possibly add another headache to the guard platoon that has been alleviated with the injury of Larry Hughes but I could see the Chicago depth chart looking like:

PG - Derrick Rose
SG - Kirk Hinrich, Larry Hughes, Ben Gordon
SF - Luol Deng, Thabo Sefalosha, Demetris Nichols
PF - Lamar Odom, Tyrus Thomas, Cedric Simmons
C - Joakim Noah, Aaron Gray

Or something of the sort, the whole backcourt situation on Chicago is a little on the messy side. That's my take.

Tuesday, November 4, 2008

10 yr vets vs 5 yrs or younger

Do you think experience makes a difference?  Let's see how you like this then:

I have three rosters, one consisting of players in the NBA for 10 or more years (in their 10th year), one for players 5 or less (in their 5th year), and one for everyone in the middle.  Who'd win?

10 or more
PG: Steve Nash, Chauncey Billups
SG: Kobe Bryant, Allen Iverson, Vince Carter
SF: Tracy McGrady, Paul Pierce
PF: Kevin Garnett, Dirk Nowitzki, Rasheed Wallace
C: Tim Duncan, Marcus Camby
Res: Rashard Lewis, Jason Kidd, Ray Allen

5-10
PG: Baron Davis, Gilbert Arenas
SG: Joe Johnson, Michael Redd, Manu Ginobili
SF: Caron Butler, Gerald Wallace
PF: Amare Stoudemire, Carlos Boozer, Elton Brand
C: Yao Ming, Tyson Chandler
Res: Richard Hamilton, Jason Richardson, Tony Parker

5 and under
PG: Chris Paul, Deron Williams
SG: Dwayne Wade, Brandon Roy
SF: LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant
PF: Chris Bosh, Josh Smith, Al Jefferson
C: Dwight Howard, Emeka Okafor
Res: Luol Deng, Danny Granger, David West

Ok so here are the lineups.  Who do you think will win this one?  Just something I thought I'd throw together.  Assuming right here right now playing, who wins, who loses, who would you swap out and why?  Take it away.

Monday, November 3, 2008

Blockbuster 2.0 in the making

Yahoo! Sports has this going down within the hour, about an hour ago, so supposedly it happened.

Not really sure what to write about it, but in order for me to be on top of things and this to breaking to the people that only folly Poor Man's GM (which is nobody), here's a tidbit.

The trade is essentially Allen Iverson for Chauncey Billups and Antonio McDyess.  Rumors also have Cheick Samb floating around here and there but he's kind of a non-factor that just makes the money work.  

The initial reaction is that neither team really gets significantly younger, but it does shake things up.  Let's look at it from team to team:

Denver Nuggets:

Well, if this falls through the projected lineup would probably look something like this:

Starting 5:
PG- Chauncey Billups
SG- JR Smith
SF- Carmelo Anthony
PF- Kenyon Martin
C- Nene Hilario

Off the bench:
Guards: Anthony Carter, Chucky Atkins, Sonny Weems
Forwards: Linas Kleiza, Renaldo Balkman, Antonio McDyess, Juwan Howard
Centers: Chris Anderson, Steven Hunter

I'm with the party that believes that Chauncey Billups is a bigger upgrade over Anthony Carter than JR Smith is a downgrade from Allen Iverson.  If JR Smith has shown us anything, it's that he can score, and Allen Iverson was a scorer.  While Iverson may be more proven, I'm willing to take my chances with the younger scoring shooting guard.  Billups adds size and veterancy to the backcourt and someone who can both shoot the ball, adding a greater perimeter threat in addtion to the moving of JR Smith to the starting lineup, and someone who is unselfish and is effective at running the offense.  It'll be interesting to see how things work out, as the Nuggets will likely slow their pace down a bit.  However, the roster looks to be a bit more solid and you don't run into the problem of Melo and Iverson each doing their own thing, should the chemistry work Billups brings more to a team than just his numbers, he makes the team more of a team.  At least that's what he did in Detroit, we'll see if that carries over.  McDyess shores up a think frontcourt and is a solid hustler and will likely platoon time with Kenyon Martin keeping them both fresher.  The biggest concern is who backs up JR Smith, I can see points in time where Billups maybe plays 2 with Anthony Carter sliding into the lineup, otherwise, I expect Kleiza to be the main backup 2 guard.  Can't say I've seen enough of Kleiza to say whether or not that's good or bad.

Detroit:

This is where the trade raises a couple of question marks, the starting lineup projected would probably be something like this:

Starting 5:
PG- Allen Iverson
SG- Richard Hamilton
SF- Tayshaun Prince
PF- Amir Johnson
C- Rasheed Wallace

Off the bench
Guards: Rodney Stuckey, Arron Afflalo, Will Bynum
Forwards: Walter Hermann, Jason Maxiell, Walter Sharp
Centers: Kwame Brown

It'll be interesting to see how Iverson fits into the system, though the Pistons do need a player who can just simply take over games.  Handing the reigns over to his hands however, might not be the greatest idea, unless Michael Curry decides to start Stuckey and slide everyone over a slot, benching Amir Johnson and playing small.  Either way, it's not idea, but I can see it working.  Iverson is a proficient passer when has a mind to, though his option is to always score first.  I think he'll draw enough attention that Hamilton, Prince, Johnson, and Wallace will all be able to do well, but then it's a matter of getting them the ball.  We'll see how this pans out, it's another one of those big risk, big reward moves.

If we're to look at the Iverson trade from a financial standpoint it's actually quite ingenious.  If Iverson doesn't win the ring then oh well, it was a good run, and good bye.  Extra $20 mil on the books, Sheed wants to retire, there goes another $13 mil.  They extended Rip, but they have around $30 mil to play around with in free agency, enabling them to probably land someone like Lamar Odom or Hedo Turkoglu end of this year and make a serious run for LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, or Amare Stoudemire while still resigning Tayshaun Prince in 2010.  Joe Dumars is a genius to say the least, and this is one of the smoothest transitions I've seen yet.

UPDATE: Samb is indeed included in the package, a lot of people believe that this would likely lead to a buyout of McDyess who would probably return to Detroit in 30 days.